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		<title>By: SkipLunch</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/08/23/hammering-the-pixels-by-hand/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>SkipLunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 04:46:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TRS-80 color computer! (trash-eighty) 

I used to sell them at radio shack.

http://oldcomputers.net/coco.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRS-80 color computer! (trash-eighty) </p>
<p>I used to sell them at radio shack.</p>
<p><a href="http://oldcomputers.net/coco.html" rel="nofollow">http://oldcomputers.net/coco.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/08/23/hammering-the-pixels-by-hand/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first computer was a Commodore 64.  My dad bought it in '84.  It had 64k RAM, one 5.25" floppy drive, a CASSETTE TAPE drive and a slot on the back of the CPU that accepted game cartridges (like an Atari).  I remember writing a few small programs with it, but mostly, I used it for video games.  Lots and lots of video games.  The 64 had nice 8-bit color and sound, and was connected to a regular TV set.  It was actually pretty high-tech for the time.

First Internet experience was rather haphazard.  I was interning for a small radio station, and had some time to kill.  (This was 1995.)  I decided to fire up the station's Compuserve account.  Had no idea what I was doing, or how it worked.  Somehow, I wound up chatting with a woman in the U.K.  About a year later, I got online at home, and never looked back.  I posted my first site also in '97, and around the same time, I figured out how to do live audio streaming with RealAudio.  Real broadband wasn't available for me until 2001, and it sucked waiting that long to get it.  No way I could live without it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first computer was a Commodore 64.  My dad bought it in &#8216;84.  It had 64k RAM, one 5.25&#8243; floppy drive, a CASSETTE TAPE drive and a slot on the back of the CPU that accepted game cartridges (like an Atari).  I remember writing a few small programs with it, but mostly, I used it for video games.  Lots and lots of video games.  The 64 had nice 8-bit color and sound, and was connected to a regular TV set.  It was actually pretty high-tech for the time.</p>
<p>First Internet experience was rather haphazard.  I was interning for a small radio station, and had some time to kill.  (This was 1995.)  I decided to fire up the station&#8217;s Compuserve account.  Had no idea what I was doing, or how it worked.  Somehow, I wound up chatting with a woman in the U.K.  About a year later, I got online at home, and never looked back.  I posted my first site also in &#8216;97, and around the same time, I figured out how to do live audio streaming with RealAudio.  Real broadband wasn&#8217;t available for me until 2001, and it sucked waiting that long to get it.  No way I could live without it now.</p>
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		<title>By: mwdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>mwdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! 
Wow. The stuff people had to do in the dark ages, before Jobs and Gates stole thunder from someone who stole it from the aliens! 

MWD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!<br />
Wow. The stuff people had to do in the dark ages, before Jobs and Gates stole thunder from someone who stole it from the aliens! </p>
<p>MWD</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/08/23/hammering-the-pixels-by-hand/#comment-29</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 19:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an email just now about the above photo's model, which I'm sure is the same one as my parents' had.
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:: Re: AM Typesetter


The company AM was Addressograph Multilith (and on some
nameplates, Addressograph Multigraph). Addressograph was an
early technology for doing envelope mailings -- you would
make up individual stencils of each address on your mailing
list, and then could reuse those stencils in a machine to
batch print envelopes. From that they branched into
phototypesetting. The original &lt;a&gt;Varityper&lt;/a&gt;
was perhaps the earliest typewriter that could be used
almost like typesetting, and once offset methods of
printing, including photonegatives, became possible, the
Varityper was used to set type in various fonts. (Just
google "varityper"). How or when AM acquired the Varityper
brand, I don't know, but they made phototypesetters from I
think the '60s until phototypesetting died in the early
'90s. At the end, with the company spending a long time in
bankruptcy, I know AM was trying to spin off Varityper,
whose chief competitor at the time was Compugraphic.
Linotype was another competitor, though less prominent as I
recall (ironic, given that the Linotype brand survived).

The first Varityper I worked on was the Comp/Set 510, a
model that let you see the type you were working on in
preview on screen -- in the sense that you could see the
codes and letters you were going to send to the typesetter.
You could see a few lines at a time, but once a line was
committed to the typesetter, it was gone. You could not go
back and fix mistakes or store large material. The next
series was the more sophisticated Comp/Edit series, which
allowed you to edit and store materials (on 8" floppy
disks). This was a huge advantage, as you could now
proofread and go back and fix things without introducing
new errors, and produce clean typesetting without pasted-on
corrections for the first time. However, even the Comp/Edit
6400, in my picture, couldn't really preview fonts in any
way -- it just showed approximate size and placement in a
generic screen font.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an email just now about the above photo&#8217;s model, which I&#8217;m sure is the same one as my parents&#8217; had.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>:: Re: AM Typesetter</p>
<p>The company AM was Addressograph Multilith (and on some<br />
nameplates, Addressograph Multigraph). Addressograph was an<br />
early technology for doing envelope mailings &#8212; you would<br />
make up individual stencils of each address on your mailing<br />
list, and then could reuse those stencils in a machine to<br />
batch print envelopes. From that they branched into<br />
phototypesetting. The original <a>Varityper</a><br />
was perhaps the earliest typewriter that could be used<br />
almost like typesetting, and once offset methods of<br />
printing, including photonegatives, became possible, the<br />
Varityper was used to set type in various fonts. (Just<br />
google &#8220;varityper&#8221;). How or when AM acquired the Varityper<br />
brand, I don&#8217;t know, but they made phototypesetters from I<br />
think the &#8217;60s until phototypesetting died in the early<br />
&#8217;90s. At the end, with the company spending a long time in<br />
bankruptcy, I know AM was trying to spin off Varityper,<br />
whose chief competitor at the time was Compugraphic.<br />
Linotype was another competitor, though less prominent as I<br />
recall (ironic, given that the Linotype brand survived).</p>
<p>The first Varityper I worked on was the Comp/Set 510, a<br />
model that let you see the type you were working on in<br />
preview on screen &#8212; in the sense that you could see the<br />
codes and letters you were going to send to the typesetter.<br />
You could see a few lines at a time, but once a line was<br />
committed to the typesetter, it was gone. You could not go<br />
back and fix mistakes or store large material. The next<br />
series was the more sophisticated Comp/Edit series, which<br />
allowed you to edit and store materials (on 8&#8243; floppy<br />
disks). This was a huge advantage, as you could now<br />
proofread and go back and fix things without introducing<br />
new errors, and produce clean typesetting without pasted-on<br />
corrections for the first time. However, even the Comp/Edit<br />
6400, in my picture, couldn&#8217;t really preview fonts in any<br />
way &#8212; it just showed approximate size and placement in a<br />
generic screen font.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/08/23/hammering-the-pixels-by-hand/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ey, Michael, you turned off the HTML? Anyway, here's a link to the picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlsoldphotos/232635493/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ey, Michael, you turned off the HTML? Anyway, here&#8217;s a link to the picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlsoldphotos/232635493/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/carlsoldphotos/232635493/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/08/23/hammering-the-pixels-by-hand/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: This is what the screen looked like:

"What the screen on the Comp/Edit 5400 (I think) looked like -- this was our hot modern version of WYSIWYG. All the little indecipherable symbols at the top were the codes we had to type in in order to get to WYSIWYG. "</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: This is what the screen looked like:</p>
<p>&#8220;What the screen on the Comp/Edit 5400 (I think) looked like &#8212; this was our hot modern version of WYSIWYG. All the little indecipherable symbols at the top were the codes we had to type in in order to get to WYSIWYG. &#8220;</p>
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