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	<title>Comments on: How I invented Creative Commons</title>
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	<description>MICHAEL W. DEAN and his furry friends</description>
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		<title>By: Michael W. Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W. Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nifty....Mike Linksvayer, Vice President of Creative Commons posting on StinkFight. That would have been like when I was in a band if John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin came to our gig. I'm a fan. 

Glad you liked DIY or DIE, I dig the stuff you folks do. I consider it a high compliment. 

Yeah, eight letters telling me to use CC on my film is a lot, but:

1. Between me and my distributor, we sent out a boatload of press releases. 
2. A lot of the people on my list are punkers and anarchists, and a lot of them are vehemently anti-copyright. 

MWD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nifty&#8230;.Mike Linksvayer, Vice President of Creative Commons posting on StinkFight. That would have been like when I was in a band if John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin came to our gig. I&#8217;m a fan. </p>
<p>Glad you liked DIY or DIE, I dig the stuff you folks do. I consider it a high compliment. </p>
<p>Yeah, eight letters telling me to use CC on my film is a lot, but:</p>
<p>1. Between me and my distributor, we sent out a boatload of press releases.<br />
2. A lot of the people on my list are punkers and anarchists, and a lot of them are vehemently anti-copyright. </p>
<p>MWD</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Linksvayer</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Linksvayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great film, just watched all segments on YT ... Jamison above pointed me here.

While I'm mildly surprised and a little glad that there are 8 people who are big enough fans of CC to suggest using it, there's no reason for a fan to be pushy about it.

Also, lots of people invented something like CC over the past 10 years, some of them even invented public licenses that others would be encouraged to use.  CC just happens to have been the first such effort with enough backing to stick around long enough to gather 8 or so fans. :)

But credit goes to everyone experimenting outside the corporate media box, whether open licensing/net publication or the much longer history of DIY which you document a part of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great film, just watched all segments on YT &#8230; Jamison above pointed me here.</p>
<p>While I&#8217;m mildly surprised and a little glad that there are 8 people who are big enough fans of CC to suggest using it, there&#8217;s no reason for a fan to be pushy about it.</p>
<p>Also, lots of people invented something like CC over the past 10 years, some of them even invented public licenses that others would be encouraged to use.  CC just happens to have been the first such effort with enough backing to stick around long enough to gather 8 or so fans. <img src='http://www.stinkfight.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But credit goes to everyone experimenting outside the corporate media box, whether open licensing/net publication or the much longer history of DIY which you document a part of.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W. Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W. Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can't tell in the photo, but it was raining while we did it.


Hey Beavis....you ever light a guitar pick? Hold it in pliers if you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t tell in the photo, but it was raining while we did it.</p>
<p>Hey Beavis&#8230;.you ever light a guitar pick? Hold it in pliers if you do!</p>
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		<title>By: SkiP　ＬｕｎＣｈ</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>SkiP　ＬｕｎＣｈ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think thats very dangerous. Be careful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think thats very dangerous. Be careful!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W. Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1109</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W. Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points, Jamison. 

As for "it would be more appropriate if the artists that you were filming were licensing with CC to distribute your film with a cc license", well, CC did not exist, at all, when I was filming. I did get release forms signed by everyone for being in the film, and for use of their music in the film. But it included nothing about most of the rights granted by CC. And to find all of the people in it would be very hard. Two have vanished and left no forwarding info, one recently passed away, and the rest are hella busy. 

I think my main point is that for THIS project, the way I did it works. I believe that there is no "one size fits all" protection for all projects. I have  used different models for each project, with what I think works best for that. 

(I have an upcoming article about this idea, in the next issue of "Release Print" magazine. Will also be online on O'Reilly sooner or later, and I'll link that.) 

Thank you, 
MWD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points, Jamison. </p>
<p>As for &#8220;it would be more appropriate if the artists that you were filming were licensing with CC to distribute your film with a cc license&#8221;, well, CC did not exist, at all, when I was filming. I did get release forms signed by everyone for being in the film, and for use of their music in the film. But it included nothing about most of the rights granted by CC. And to find all of the people in it would be very hard. Two have vanished and left no forwarding info, one recently passed away, and the rest are hella busy. </p>
<p>I think my main point is that for THIS project, the way I did it works. I believe that there is no &#8220;one size fits all&#8221; protection for all projects. I have  used different models for each project, with what I think works best for that. </p>
<p>(I have an upcoming article about this idea, in the next issue of &#8220;Release Print&#8221; magazine. Will also be online on O&#8217;Reilly sooner or later, and I&#8217;ll link that.) </p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
MWD</p>
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		<title>By: Jamison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC is good cause its got lots of offices around the world. less lawyers involved in distribution of art the better I reckon. for the introverted sometimes wondering art person, CC is something that can open doors and bring back/or create flow.  as you kind of get at. CC in the US and CC in Europe are also different, mainly cause of the rights organizations + cultural things as well.

 Its a little rude to tell people how to license what they do, i understand where your coming from and especially with your cool distribution idea that found a shadow in the CC light.
so excuse telling you what to do.
	it would be more appropriate if the artists that you were filming were licensing with CC to distribute your film with a cc license.  I can't say using a CC license has given me more dollars to create with, yet i can't say its given me less also. yet how can an artists know either way ? i'm more productive licensing with CC though. So i like the license. i also like your license idea and maybe its something you could work on. it might be more practical for many film makers.

thanks for your film</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC is good cause its got lots of offices around the world. less lawyers involved in distribution of art the better I reckon. for the introverted sometimes wondering art person, CC is something that can open doors and bring back/or create flow.  as you kind of get at. CC in the US and CC in Europe are also different, mainly cause of the rights organizations + cultural things as well.</p>
<p> Its a little rude to tell people how to license what they do, i understand where your coming from and especially with your cool distribution idea that found a shadow in the CC light.<br />
so excuse telling you what to do.<br />
	it would be more appropriate if the artists that you were filming were licensing with CC to distribute your film with a cc license.  I can&#8217;t say using a CC license has given me more dollars to create with, yet i can&#8217;t say its given me less also. yet how can an artists know either way ? i&#8217;m more productive licensing with CC though. So i like the license. i also like your license idea and maybe its something you could work on. it might be more practical for many film makers.</p>
<p>thanks for your film</p>
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		<title>By: Michael W. Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.stinkfight.com/2007/11/11/how-i-invented-creative-commons/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael W. Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm...I...um...added the flames...in,...you know, Photoshop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230;I&#8230;um&#8230;added the flames&#8230;in,&#8230;you know, Photoshop.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip Lunch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip Lunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, what about the environment ,MWD?

I think you must be violating some suburban zoning regulation by igniting that bio-hazardous material.

 Fer Chrissakes,.... think about the children!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, what about the environment ,MWD?</p>
<p>I think you must be violating some suburban zoning regulation by igniting that bio-hazardous material.</p>
<p> Fer Chrissakes,&#8230;. think about the children!</p>
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